Edmund’s Community Courier

ECFA and the Chandler Family Association

by Sue Kirves, Historian

The Chandler Family Association

Just as the ECFA was formed to research descendants of Edmund Chandler, the CFA was initially formed to research descendants of John Chandler born 1600.   However, recent genealogical DNA testing has shown there are some members of the CFA who do not descend from 1600 John.  This has led us to look for new ways to better serve all our present and future members, no matter which Chandler ancestor they claim.

While the ECFA and the CFA have sporadically exchanged information over the years, DNA technology has generated an even greater interest in reciprocal sharing. Thus, when we were invited to provide information about the CFA for your newsletter, we welcomed the opportunity.

One of the CFA’s goals is to foster kinship among our members.  Another is to foster genealogical research of the Chandler family name.  Both of these goals are served by our annual meetings, held in various locations throughout the country.   This year (2009) we met in Athens, Georgia; next year (2010) we will meet in Hampton, Virginia, to celebrate the 400th anniversary of the 1610 arrival of John Chandler in Virginia.  An extensive CFA library, containing more than 150 books, documents, and other media relating to Chandler history and genealogy, is available for research purposes at all our annual meetings.  In addition, at least one day of our annual meeting is set aside for the sharing of genealogical research and information among our members.

Prior to 2008, Jim Reeves (one of the CFA founders) spent more than 20 years collecting data on nearly 130,000 individuals believed to be descendants of our John Chandler.   The last publication of this data was in 2008, when Jim produced a final updated version of the three-volume set titled the John Chandler Descendant Chart Book.

While Jim’s data has been converted to CD format, it has some limitations.  So in 2009, the CFA launched the CFA Lineages Database (CFALD) project.  This is a major project, under the direction of CFA vice president Dick Chandler, to convert the irreplaceable information into a proper database format that can be easily accessed and searched by anyone.  This conversion process will remove data entry duplications as well as standardize data entries.  In conjunction with the Chandler DNA Project, personal relationships will be sorted into family groups and family groups will be matched to their proper DNA groups.

Once this initial work is completed, we will be able to move beyond the current scope and begin adding other Chandler lines.  A goal for the CFA Lineages Database project is to include every Chandler who ever existed!  According to Dick Chandler, CFALD project manager, it is estimated there will eventually be 150 distinct family groups identified through the DNA project.

Results from the Chandler DNA Project to date have proven that some CFA members1 who believed they were descendants of 1600 John cannot genetically be so.   This has caused the CFA to begin moving from a position of solely focusing on descendants of 1600 John to a broader perspective of including descendants of all Chandler lines.  Since the DNA test results have sent some of our members who believed they were John descendants looking elsewhere for their earliest Chandler ancestor, we are doing what we can to help with their research.  In many of these cases, the ECFA has been most helpful.

Membership in the Chandler Family Association is open to anyone interested in Chandler genealogy.  Our domestic and international membership now numbers well over 400 members, many of whom interact with each other via Facebook2 or the internet. Annual dues of $15.00 include a subscription to the CFA Newsletter, which is published three times per year.  If you would like a complimentary issue, contact our editor – Claudia Chandler Brocato – at cbrocato@earthlink.net.   She will be happy to send you a pdf version of our latest issue.

We look forward to continuing the excellent working relationship that exists between the ECFA and the CFA. New CFA president C. M. Chandler said, “We all have the same goals – among them to serve better those who approach us for help in their Chandler research. I pledge to continue the cooperative efforts that have proven so beneficial for both the ECFA and the CFA.”

The CFA website at www.thecfa.org serves as the “front door” for our organization.  Stop in for a visit anytime to learn more about the Chandler Family Association and our ongoing research efforts.

Chandler in Chinese

Chandler in Chinese

Dick Chandler (CFA member, Chandler DNA Project administrator, and coordinator of the Chandler One-Name Study) reports that in 2004 he wrote to the headquarters of Chandler Partners Limited, a business services and consulting company with offices in Hong Kong, Singapore, and Shanghai, asking the origin of their use of the Chandler name. He was told that “Chandler” sounds like the Chinese word(s) for “support,” which is what their company provides to its customers, and that’s why the name was chosen.

Referencing a recent television commercial, Dick said, “I’m so glad it doesn’t mean ‘stinky fish-face’ or similar!”

Dick carries on constant research and correspondence with regard to the Chandler name and genealogy. Visit his One Name Study web page at http://www.one-name.org/profiles/chandler.html.

by Barb Chandler

Genealogical research has made gigantic strides from the days when family historians, with pencil and paper in hand, went to the library to record family history from  poorly formatted  documents. Their efforts, however well intentioned, were in many instances way off course. People were not as meticulous about research in those days and would write down stories that were sometimes fanciful. Primary sources help substantiate and give credibility to research findings. These are; birth or death certificates, wills, deeds, legal reports, Bible entries, and other similar documentation.

Of all of the early Plymouth and Duxbury families, research into the Edmund Chandler family probably contained the most errors. Many old books about him riddled with errors continue to make rounds on the internet. Researchers have caught some of these mistakes. According to Eugene Aubrey Stratton, former Historian General of the Society of Mayflower Descendants, George Ernest Bowman was able to correct many of them. Due to the efforts of people at The Edmund Chandler Family Association, the correct information about Edmund is updated and documented on their website.
The main myths about Edmund are that he was the husband of Elizabeth Alden, owned a sugar plantation in the Barbados, and his parents were John Chandler and Jane Gitton.
1. It has been proven that his parents were not John Chandler and Jane Gitton.
2. His grandson, also named Edmund, married Elizabeth Alden. The immigrant Edmund had two wives, perhaps more their names are unknown.
3. Edmund never owned a sugar plantation in Barbados.
For a detailed explanation about the myths click on this link: http://www.edmundchandler.com/myths.html

Most researchers believe Edmund (also spelled Edmond) Chandler was born sometime during the 1580’s in England the exact location unknown; however, Chandler is a common name in Wiltshire, Hampshire, Essex and, Berkshire areas and may provide clues. Edmund was an English Calvinist religious dissenter, known as Separatists, who fled England to Holland in order to avoid persecution under Queen Elizabeth I and her successor King James I. He arrived in Leiden, Holland where he was admitted to citizenship in 1613 he was called a “say-weaver,” the weaver of course woolen cloths. On March 26, 1619 Edmund buried a child in St. Peter’s; he lived at that time in Nieuwestadt.

Edmund was probably related to Roger Chandler as they were together in Leiden. Roger arrived in Plymouth after the 1627 cattle division in Plymouth, as he was not on the list of residents that received cattle and goats. . Edmund probably arrived in Plymouth Colony in 1629 or 1630 as that is when arrangements were made to bring the last of the Leiden congregation over. A few stragglers may have arrived later, but in any case he arrived before 1633 as he was on the list of Duxbury freemen for that year, the first mention of him in the Plymouth colony. Edmund became active in the governing of the town. He was the Constable of Duxbury, the equivalent of Chief Executive Officer, and was appointed Deputy twice to Plymouth Colony General Court. Like many other colonists, he became active in acquiring large tracts of land by purchase and grants. Edmund was thought to have children by his first and second wives. The children from his first wife were; Samuel, Lydia, and an unnamed infant. The children  from his second wife were; John, Ruth, Sarah, Joseph, Anna, Mary, and Benjamin. Edmund died in Duxbury, MA
between May 2 and June 2, 1662 the date of his inventory.


Edmund Chandler Timeline http://www.edmundchandler.com/timeline.html

Pilgrim Village Families Sketch: Edmund Chandler, Robert Charles Anderson http://www.newenglandancestors.org/research/services/articles_6526.asp

“The Genealogy of Edward Small of New England and the Allied Families with Tracings of English Ancestry” by Lora Altine Woodbury Underhill (Cambridge, Mass. 1910), online at; http://books.google.com/books?id=UMRRAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+Genealogy+of+Edward+Small+of+New+England+and+the+Allied+Families+with+Tracings+of+English+Ancestry&ei=7oAIS4OFHKGulAT01rDYCQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Chandler Normal School

by Sue Kirves kirves@Bellsouth.net

CFA Vice President (now Historian)

Published in CFA Summer 2009 Newsletter

Chandler Normal School Courtsey of the National Park Service

Webster Hall Courtsey of the National Parks Service

While researching one of my ancestors, an article about the Chandler Normal School in Lexington, Kentucky, caught my attention because of its name. The school was an outgrowth of the first formal educational institution for black children in Lexington, established shortly after the Civil War by the ladies of the Methodist Church located on Lexington’s Church Street.1

Originally established to meet the need for black teachers, the school’s primary financial support came from the American Missionary Society. The Rev. James Turner, an energetic black leader, led the drive to secure their financial support from its beginning until its closure in 1923.

At first, the faculty of the school was primarily white female teachers from the north, whose expenses were paid by the Freedman’s Bureau.2 These white teachers were ostracized by Lexington’s white community due to their associations with the city’s black community. However, two benefits sprang from this ostracism. First, the black community became more refined due to the influence exerted by these teachers and the type of music, both vocal and instrumental, taught at the school. Second, because school authorities could not provide adequate teacher housing in white homes, the American Missionary Society eventually built a teachers’ home on the school’s property.3
Named Webster Hall in honor of one of the early educators at the school, the home was designed by Lexington native Vertner A. Tandy, Sr. Tandy was the son of Henry A. Tandy, a successful black builder at the turn of the century. A Chandler graduate, Tandy went on to become one of the earliest and most prolific black professional architects in the United States.4

In 1889, the work of the school was brought to the attention of Ms. Phoebe A. Chandler5 of Massachusetts. She donated $15,000, or about $350,000 in today’s dollars, to buy four acres of land on which to build the Romanesque structure. Once completed, the structure was named the Chandler Normal6 School in her honor.

The quality of education at Chandler Normal School made it one of the city’s best schools. Students were strictly disciplined and taught to obey the teacher at all costs; failure to do so resulted in a threat of – or actual – expulsion. Chandler, a private day school with tuition of $10 per year per pupil, became one of the county’s best schools. Classes were opened each day with patriotic songs. Good manners, truthfulness, punctuality, and hard work were taught throughout the day. Teachers were given license to teach morality along with each subject. One of Chandler Normal School’s guiding principles was that the best education comes with strict discipline and good instruction by Christian teachers. Thus, a Chandler education became highly valued in the community and, in fact, most of the prominent members of Lexington’s black community received their education at this school.7

By the early 1920s, though, enrollment was on the decline due to the expansion of the public school system. The graduating class of 1923 marked the close of the Chandler Normal School. Shortly thereafter, Kentucky State College came into being and provided the black teachers needed for the state’s growing student population.

In December of 1980, the Chandler Normal School and Webster Hall buildings were placed on the National Register of Historic Places.

But the question in my mind still remains: who was Phoebe A. Chandler? If she was married, which Chandler was her spouse? If she was single, who were her parents? Even after reading quite a bit about the Chandler school, there was little mention of or about Phoebe – except for the substantial donation she made to build the school and the fact she was from Massachusetts. However, I did form somewhat of an opinion about her. She was a strong believer in the value of a good education for everyone. Even more important, she believed that a good education should be tempered with strict teachings of Christian values. Perhaps someone who reads this article can add to the picture I’ve only begun of this Chandler ancestor.


1Kentucky Explorer, online edition, October 2000. Information about Chandler Normal School came from Lexington Leader newspaper accounts, 1889-1920.

2Wright, John D. Lexington, Heart of the Bluegrass. An Illustrated History. University of Kentucky Press, 1994. p. 119.

3Fouse, William H. Master’s Dissertation, Graduate Faculty of the Teachers College, University of Cincinnati, 1937.

4Langsam, Walter E. Architectural Historian, Lexington-Fayette County Historic Committee, National Register of Historic Places, 1980.

5Some reports of her donation refer to her as Miss, others call her Mrs.

6The term “Normal” usually applied to teacher-training institutions at the time.

7Savage, Beth. African American Historic Places, National Register of Historic Places, National Park Service. Gaithersburg, MD. Pg. 233.

Author’s Note: My thanks to Ms. Eleanor Cunningham, author of a book titled Miss Apple:  Letters of a Maine Teacher in Kentucky. This book conveys the atmosphere enveloping the school and the daily lives of the northern teachers who lived and worked among Lexington’s black community. The book is available from Amazon.com or can be ordered directly from the author, Ms. Eleanor Cunningham. Contact her at Ewcuning@aol.com for ordering information.

Genealogists Toolbox

Help with Census Forms

By Claudia Chandler Brocato


This site offers blank census forms for each census year. To access the forms, hover your cursor over “Search” on the site’s homepage, choose “Site Search,” type in “Census Record Abstracts” and then choose the first result:Genealogy.com: Census Record Abstracts. Or just typehttp://www.genealogy.com/genealogy/00000061.html in your browser’s address line.

Click on the census year you are interested in, click “printable image” and then print. The printed form will clearly show the headings, which are often hard to read online.

The site suggests the forms are also helpful when you are doing research with census records, allowing you to copy information from the census records in an organized way.


by Elsie Ray

This is an exact copy as written and found in an old scrapbook – with
spelling errors and all.

Build fire in backyard to heat kettle of rain water. Set tubs so smoke
wont blow in eyes if wind is pert. Shave one hole cake of lie soap in
boilin water.

Sort things, make 3 piles
1 pile white,
1 pile colored,
1 pile work britches and rags.
To make starch, stir flour in cool water to smooth, then thin down with
boiling water.

Take white things, rub dirty spots on board, scrub hard, and boil, then
rub colored don’t boil just wrench and starch.

Take things out of kettle with broom stick handle, then wrench, and

Hang old rags on fence.

Spread tea towels on grass.

Pore wrench water in flower bed. Scrub porch with hot soapy water. Turn
tubs upside down.

Go put on clean dress, smooth hair with hair combs. Brew cup of tea, sit
and rock a spell and count your blessings.

Paste this over your washer and dryer. Next time when you think things are
bleak, read it again, kiss that washing machine and dryer, and give
thanks. First thing each morning you should run and hug your washer and
dryer, also your toilet—those two-holers used to get mighty cold!

For you non-southerners -wrench means rinse. ;)


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