Lots of ECFA news, including Duxbury and Maine news. No articles this month, but Barb Chandler, our editor, says that we will probably go with the articles on a quarterly basis. If you have an interesting story to tell about one of your Chandler ancestors, or have come across some historical information about an Edmund Chandler descendant, please share! We need writers, pictures, research hints, queries, questions, etc. I hope to be writing about the Stamp Act and the Chandlers who protested it and have a DNA Q and A about the new DNA test for a future issue.
We have two new members since last time. Check and see if you share the same line and maybe you can share info or help each other out. For the few that forgot to send in your dues, please send them to Bob, our treasurer. You can e-mail him at email@example.com to get his address if you do not have it.
WELCOME NEW MEMBERS
Our new members are, Chris Chandler, this time from the Benjamin line, and Mike McDonough from the Joseph line through Ichabod and Capt. John.
FROM THE BENJAMIN LINE
Chris descends from Edmund, the immigrant’s son, Benjamin. Benjamin’s son, Joseph, moved to Connecticut, then his sons moved to New Hampshire and Vermont.
Chris is stuck at his ancestor David Chandler. David was born in 1853 in Vermont. His family history notes shows David as the son of Hiram Chandler but he is looking for documentation to show the connection. Chris’ line starting with Hiram and going back goes like this: Hiram>Ozias>Simeon>Joseph>Benjamin>Edmund, the immigrant
Luckily for Chris, Elsie, Cornelia and I spent some time researching Hiram and Ozias of Vermont a couple of years ago so we were able to trace Hiram back to Edmund, but did not fully research his children so did not see David. Hiram’s father, Ozias, eventually moved from Vermont and was listed in the 1850 US census for Sterling, Massachusetts where he died.
I found Hiram in the 1850 US census for Belvidere, Lamoille, Vermont. Then Hiram seems to drop off the map. I found other Hirams — Hiram of Putney, Vermont, Hiram of Chenango New York — but not the right Hiram. He may have died, but if he died what happened to his children, especially David? David shows up in the 1900 census and maybe the 1880 census, but that is all that I could find. I don’t have access to a full 1860 census. So if any of you have access to the 1860 and 1870 censuses, it would help Chris if you could find David Chandler or he may have been called David Hiram Chandler. Contact Chris at firstname.lastname@example.org
FROM JOSEPH’S LINE
New member, Mike McDonough, has traced his line to Ichabod Chandler and Ruth Fish. Because of the research that we all have done, I was able to fill him in from Ichabod back to Edmund. So his line starting with Ichabod goes like this: Ichabod>Jonathan>Capt. John>we believe Edmund>Joseph>Edmund, the immigrant. I know that there are several Ichabod descendants out there, so you may want to share info with Mike. You can reach him at email@example.com
The Duxbury research continues. For our new members, Duxbury is the hometown to all of the Edmund Chandler descendants as that is where Edmund settled circa 1630 after coming over from Leiden.
The very complicated pieces of the puzzle are coming together. Our member, Billie, has been focusing her research on “The Old Chandler Neighborhood” of Duxbury. This is the area in Duxbury on Tremont St. near the Mayflower Cemetery up to about Harrison St. She has been concentrating on the east side of the road recently, although Chandler lands lay on both the east and west side of Tremont. You can look this up on a satellite map, but remember that the Mayflower Cemetery is mislabeled “Mayfield” on the maps. There is also “Chandlerville” in Duxbury, but that is farther west and was settled much later.
Henry Fish, who did a fantastic job on locating where the old houses were in Duxbury, and others came to an impasse when it came to the Chandlers. That area east of Tremont was just labeled The Old Chandler Neighborhood as no one actually knew which Chandlers lived there.
Research has taken Billie way, way back, before 1700. Joseph Chandler, son of Edmund the immigrant, was the first Chandler there. He was actually the first nonnative American there. So he was the start of The Old Chandler Neighborhood.
The Old Chandler Neighborhood goes back to Joseph but where was Joseph’s house? Where was his son, Edmund’s house? Where was the land that Joseph’s daughters, Esther, Sarah and Mary inherited? These are the questions that she has been working on.
The main players in this game of musical houses and land are Joseph, his son Edmund, his daughters, Mary, Esther, and Sarah, daughter-in-law Elizabeth (Alden) Chandler and Capt. John Chandler, Edmund’s grandson.
This is of interest to so many in our group as they descend from Joseph or both Joseph and his grandson, Capt. John Chandler who married Bethiah Rickard.
Both clues and confusion can be found in Joseph’s Will which we have in Underhill’s “Genealogy of Edward Small” in our Members’ Only library.
Billie has already found Capt. John’s house, but then the question arose: Who owned that house before Capt. John?
After much pondering by our members, Orland, Billie and me, we came up with a new theory which we hope will be born out by the research going on now. We think that we have found Joseph’s house and may have figured out Edmund’s.
The other house on Harrison which Billie thought may have been originally Joseph’s appears to have belonged to John Glass. John Glass married Joseph’s daughter, Esther. This property appears to have abutted Joseph’s property.
Stay tuned to see if our theory is born out regarding Capt. John, Joseph and Joseph’s son, Edmund.
I have been helping Billie as much as I can and the e-mails have flown back and forth, with a new discovery with each turn complete with reversals and twists. So what we thought was so a couple of months ago has been reversed since then. Billie has gone through over 400 deeds and 60 probates, and still counting, to figure out the Duxbury Chandler lands.
Aside from being actually being able to see the houses that belonged to our ancestors, as they are still standing, the importance to figuring out the ownership of the lands and houses are vital to proving Capt. John’s parentage.
Billie made an initial contact with the Duxbury people about the plaque, but needs to talk to the right person. Being New Englanders they proceed cautiously which also can mean slowly regarding something new like a plaque. Billie pointed out that it would not be just a general plaque, which they don’t need, but a specific historical marker. We have started a plaque fund and can also draw from the dues fund for the plaque when the powers that be in Duxbury can give us the go ahead. As I wrote previously the heart of the town (Third Meeting House, Mayflower Cemetery, the present day town buildings, and first school) was founded on what was Chandler land.
I went to the Rootsmagic Computer Users meeting Sunday. Rootsmagic is a fairly new genealogy program. As you know if you have been following the ECFA news, I am terrible with computers, really good at research, but fizzle with computers. One of the experts who belong to the user group said that I can bring the disks down and he will help sort them out and tell me what needs to be done next. The new data and old data wouldn’t merge correctly along with a few more glitches, plus the whole works needs to go into a new program.
The other news is that with Billie’s research, we need to start thinking about merging at least some of the databases. Right now We have Edmund’s Main Lineage, Capt. John’s lineage, Nathaniel’s lineage, Mercy’s lineage and Zebedee’s lineage. The reason that they were separate was because we did not have proof of how they descended from Edmund Chandler, the immigrant. Well, we are getting closer, thanks to Billie, to that proof. We now have proof that Capt. John was the grandson of Joseph and great-grandson of Edmund, the immigrant. She is working hard to prove that Capt. John’s father was Joseph’s son, also named Edmund.
The Members’ Only section has the databases with the notes and sources. So if you want information more than just names that is where you need to go. The public section just has the names. New members especially take note of this feature as there are extensive notes on some of the names.
Another feature of Rootsmagic that I hope that we can utilize is the ability to generate a list of ancestors with their occupations. It will be interesting to see what patterns could emerge from that. Lots of blacksmiths early on. Some sea captains, too.
Right now the main focus is on the Duxbury research that I am helping Billie with.
We are hoping to get Roger of Concord, Mass to test as we just got a lead. Roger of Concord may tie into the greater Edmund Chandler family as many of his descendants believe that he was the son of Roger Chandler of Duxbury, but no proof. Roger Chandler of Duxbury is believed by the experts to be related to Edmund as they were both in Leiden and probably came over on the same ship to Duxbury.
CHANDLERS IN MAINE
Now that the snow has melted in Maine, our member, Steve, set out to check out a cemetery near him in New Gloucester, Maine. He came across the graves of two Chandlers that he thought could be ours. They were Jacob Chandler and Thankful Chandler. Thankful has also been spelled in the old style with two “L’s” in the records. This was at a cemetery very near the New Gloucester, Maine border. Jacob and Thankful (or Thankfull) lived in nearby Danville, Maine.
It turns out that I had researched these same two Chandlers. I think that Jacob was most likely the son of Jonathan and Zeruiah (Brown) Chandler. Jonathan was the other Jonathan of the Poland/Minot Maine area. His line back to Edmund goes like this Jonathan>Judah>Joseph>Joseph>Edmund. Jonathan’s other children are buried in the fairly nearby Empire Cemetery. I hope to do an in depth study on this Jonathan’s family in the future. You can see the pictures below. This is what Steve transcribed from the stones:
died May 10, 1872
84 yrs 2 mos
Feb. 16, 1881
88 yrs 6 mos
Of interest, to me at least, as at the foot of each grave was a small stone with their apparent initials on them…ie TC and JC.
See you next time and remember if you have a Chandler story, picture, or research tip, please share it with us and we will put it in the Courier and as usual if I made any mistakes, tell me!
Contact Barb our editor at: firstname.lastname@example.org
Happy hunting! Carol